Was A.I. better at drawing than me?

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2:55 Prompt: A twisted man, gesture style Midjourney
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There’s been a lot of buzz about Artificial Intelligence art generators. There are a few of these around now, and I was able to access one of them, called Midjourney. Another prominent one is Dalle-2.

All you have to do is enter a simple prompt like ‘watercolour painting of a city at golden hour’ and it will generate an image for you. There is a lot of debate around whether these images are art, who would own the copyright, and what does this mean for the future of artists, illustrators and designers.

In this video I chatted to an AI artist about whether we should fear it or not, and the conversation didn’t go as I expected 😉

59 Comments

  1. wonderful timing, just coped with existential fear of worthlessness. ai capabilities are scary indeed, hope the future is not

  2. People keep saying that it's just a new tool for artists to use just like a tablet or camera, but it's not the same thing at all. It's not a tool, it's a robot made out of the skills we strive to have.

    A robot that makes jewellery is not the black Smith's new tool, just because he can learn to operate it. it's a replacement.
    A tool is something that assists your skills, not the thing that has the skill.

    And I feel like people who are all in on ai are just as afraid as the people who completely despise it. They are affrais if they don't learn and adapt to this new way of the world, they will loose all they have built up.

    When we later have ai that literally create masterpieces with the click of a button, what is the benefit of that? The end product? To use for..? Consumption?
    Why does it help us at all to have a finished art piece? Whether we create it ourself or with the use of ai
    Is the finished piece more important than the creation of it?

  3. For me at least, the number one value of a piece of art is the aesthetic value: AI either can now or will in the future be able to match that value.
    Art has more than just that one value though, I think the second most valuable thing in visual art is the skill needed to do it: when you see a piece of art you sometimes wonder "how were they able to do that?"
    AI will stand beside that value (which I will just call Wonder) but will not replace it. I often think of it in terms of competition: we invented cranes which can lift more weight than human muscle will ever be capable of and yet they still hold weight lifting competitions; it is still impressive and it still fills us with Wonder to imagine what are our bodies capable of when trained. It is also Wonderful to imagine just how much weight a machine we built can lift. One Wonder does not seem to replace the other.
    As artist we train our minds , eyes, and hands to find out just what we are capable of and I don't think AI will ever stop us from wanting to explore our own limits.
    Another value of art (and im sure there are many more) is the expression. If you have something within you that you wish to express there are so many ways to share, speaking , writing ,painting, and many more, AI will just give us one more way to share what is within us with eachother.
    I hope my idea about value makes you feel better if you are worried about AI. If I can tell you one thing it will be "continue to pursue art if you are inclined to do so, don't let AI stop you!"

  4. I say in my class i want to be illustrator, then after days my teacher put a video about Dalle.2 , i cry and that mean i cry because i really value my art and my journey.

  5. Hey Kenzo! Great minds think alike! I had just finished reading WAYS OF SEEING by John Berger and then was pondering on A. I. and the usefulness of learning to draw! (given that my progress is somewhat nondescript despite the excellent resources i’m surrounded by). By the way once again I laughed at the way you have presented the idea of the video. So funny. So perspicacious. You have such a well-honed sense of observational humour. Thank you again. and yes i am planning to get back to my learning to draw journey now that i’m ready again …so see you soon in the wonderful community you have created in LLD.

  6. I think AI is an interesting tool for art but really all it is doing is generating millions of pictures and combining them. I guess in a sense it COULD replace artists for businesses who just want something done quick. However, originality I feel is lost.

  7. What I think we are going to see is a lot of commercial work- especially early concept stages- get replaced with AI. Teams of artists will shrink. But as you were saying, AI can't replicate YOU and the humanity of your experiences. I think we'll see a rise in individual artist story telling, artist will no longer be as drawn to major cooperate jobs, and instead make their own ideas a reality. This can be an exciting future filled with diverse and unique stories!

  8. Thinking
    Main Point (in Art & Design)

    How conventional or unconventional a person is. (cultural background)

    Mistakes
    Can be interesting.

    Creator & Nature
    Wabi sabi
    Time and change (development)

  9. I love Ai and I love art. I will try to integrate it into my creative process in the future, just like with 3D, as references and inspiration.

  10. Funny video! Thanks for that. English is a second language for me. I have learned it not to say or understand something specific. I wanted to express my experiences and feelings and understand expressions of others. I was drawing and painting since I remember. I was not doing it to make a specific image. I felt I could express so things that I could not express any other way.
    I think making and consuming art is about personal experience. You cannot share experience with a robot or AI. The same way as you cannot share experience with elephants or apes, when they produce “art”. It’s cute, but it doesn’t tell me anything about my existence.

  11. Your taking a LOT on assumption here. Many people dont hire an illistrator for a human connection. They hire an illistrator because they dont have the skill to create their vision themselves. If an AI can help them do that for themselves there is not need for the middle man or the philosophy justification for the middle man's role in the process.

  12. Well done. I would like to see art created by AI (and given an artist's name) placed in a gallary next to art created by an artist and see what sells the most and/or makes the most impact among patreons. My guess is that there would be little difference because human experience is simply what the viewer sees in the work and not necessarilly what the artist intended. In a way, AI is becoming an extension of what created the AI exposed as simply an art rather than only a digital process. And, we really shouldn't expect anything less since humans created the AI in the first place.

  13. I was in a fear of AI replacing us for a while until a friend of mine suggested a AI program for fun. I was surprised to find out that its more of a tool to use than a replacement of artists. I typed some words and what the AI showed me was… not complete.. but there was sth to it. I could get some compositional ideas and color schemes to "complete" the AI's work. I think AI generated art is the closest representation to what we call "inspiration" or "idea". Something vague in our thought that looks great in our mind but not in concrete form.

  14. Great video again, very thoughtful discussion and made me laugh 🙂 I tend to agree with your conclusion. We're already googling images to come up with ideas to get started, this will not be fundamentally different. Reminds me of the time when I was getting into 3D rendering and animation algorithms. I wanted to make something like Pixar movies, and to me "art" was "fantastic renderings". Took me all the way through my PhD years to realize the technology is at best a vehicle to help the artists express their very humanity.

  15. Probably the best video on A.I. generated art I've seen so far, funny, reassuring, informative and but also calm and collected. The Skynet bit was hilarious, it's what goes thru my mind every single time I hear the words A.I. ahaha

  16. I got access to Dall-e a couple days ago and it is truly a glimpse into the future, people are really going to be able to do the work of entire teams of people once this technology is perfected

  17. The YouTube robot fed me this, and I guess I'm feeling like a contrarian because I think your conclusion really does try to sidestep the notion that one day machines may be able to outperform human minds and bodies in every conceivable way, though barring some top secret military project somewhere they certainly can't right now.

    If we assume that ai can be improved iteratively and meaningfully then at some point, you could be shown pictures at random not knowing the source and not be able to tell which were ai generated and which were made by living artists. The human connection is a fallacy because in theory, the ai could eventually learn to mimic those elements that read as emotionally charged to you, and even make individually targeted content based upon observations of your individual psyche that will speak to you more than anything a stranger or even a close friend could produce.

    Or maybe computational power is finite and we're near the limit of what it can practically achieve, and as you say, a human artist will always have a place to breath life into the rough inspirations an ai can supplement.

    Either way, I think the heart of art is finding joy in your personal journey, and hopefully ai can't stand in the way of that.

    Also if ai is able to completely displace artists it's already probably taken over medicine, accounting jobs, and basically everything else, so it's not like your time would be better spent dedicating yourself to a "real" profession.

  18. Fun and original video but too optimistic. Stuff like Dall-e 2 – once perfected – is gonna destroy countless careers, except for the top artists who are absolute genius, and maybe traditional painters. The point is not if it will make man-made art and learning the craft lose their meaning. Some people will always love a creative challenge and value the human factor. The point is that it will take away the ability to make a living at digital illustration for the average artist previously working on lesser projects, trivial image making for commercial use. Why should a company pay a mediocre nobody to do in much more time what AI does in a minute and better? Only those with the best ideas for prompts and the greatest skills to improve on the output will be able to pay bills with their art. The others will stay amateurs or try to market handmade stuff, or teach people who still love to learn the craft and so on. But being hired for cheap or middle range illustration projects will be gone forever.

  19. From a business perspectve I already hear the "good enough" idea and desire for AI based art. I expect it will drain more from humanity than it will add.

  20. Another spectacular video Kenzo. Soooo funny. I have watched AI take over many jobs. AI is able to write college level essays in seconds. I thought that all jobs except for labor and art were at risk. Art was a good bet because a computer could not replicate the humanity in a work. Now, I see AI just take over this field as well. Artists, this is what is happening in all professions other than physical work; but, that will also change once they figure out how to make the machine move like a robot. They probably have done so already. AI is a new reality that we are all facing in all types of work.
    I enjoy the process of doing art; to me, it is a meditation. When I do art, I am present.
    That being said, I agree with Kenzo. I spend a lot of time looking for reference pictures because I am not good enough to draw from imagination. So, this sounds like a great tool for me to find ideas to draw from and be more creative. I don’t have to just draw landscapes that I find in the free picture reference sites; I can get reference pictures of any landscape I like, in whatever style I like, and replicate that just like I replicate any other artists’s work for my own studies. So, yes, I agree. This is just another tool. At the end of the day, people will still value the human work more than AI, I hope. Lol

  21. I share all your concerns, and largely your point of view. AI can’t create the same artistic intent or quality as a real artist, but it will fool the casual onlooker. And once they pair this kind of tech to the sorts of feedback algorithms they use on social media, they’ll start to tune the output based on which images draw the most eyeballs. I think it will definitely squeeze the market for commercial illustrators and graphic designers.

  22. AIs will get better and will do the same a person does.. it might even create a full manga or comic.. but it will be just like any other creator.. you might like creators that are human and some that are AIs the same way we do todays about other humans.. and the computational power needed will mean that there will be fewer AI creators… unless quantum computing really takes off, but there will still be human creators you like and inspire you, and perhaps it will be good marking to promote yourself as a human creator and you will find a niche for your creations.. it is just progress, we can only adapt to it..

  23. If you are an educator of the arts in any field be prepared to entertain these arguments. We've been justifying our existence for years.
    Why can't we replace performing ensembles with audio production labs? Why can't we replace visual art classes with comouter coding courses? If we call it steam, we are including the arts.
    We need to learn to utilize new technology and appreciate application in art while also holding our ground with more tangible mediums.

  24. You really hit something here! Wow, yeah. We artists tend to be envious an pessimistic about "new technologies." Kinda like people feel about NFTs right now. We can all use new tools, though! There's always a way to use something rightly. Thanks so much for your work and inspiration!

  25. First of all, there is no reason to be scared at all. Machines are complementary to us humans, not a replacement.

    Let me tell you, as a computer scientist, true (machine) intelligence is far from it's actual appearance. In the end it's just algorithms that are static and somewhat capable of being dynamic but only related to whatever field they are put into.

    See it like computers being good at chess. They never replaced chess, they made it faster, more agile, thus elevated it to a more interesting level.

    Hence, computers will always be an enhancement. Not a replacement.

    Of course, the possibility remains that some day, we might actually create a real intelligence that is similar to the intelligence that we humans carry. However, i am quite sure, that we are really far from that. I mean, it is not enough to understand the body and the brain, since there seems to be something else that is above all that (call it soul, consciousness, whatever you like). Scientists have no clue where this sits, what it is and so on. It is such consciousness/soul that has the creative abilities. Intention and creativity and emotion will always be something that only remains to human beings (or other animals). Machines however are much faster in iterating, trying out many different variations and so on. But they are not creative.

    I myself was really scared, depressed even when i learned about AI but honestly, we are really far from machines replacing us (atleast when it comes to creativity). And even if machines would "replace" us, they would just take up the work and jobs that are able to be replaced anyway. Repetitive work. This will eventually lead into a world of creative minds and entertainers. How else would you explain, that singers, actors and actressess and so on are those who earn most of the money? Because they do something that is magical. They are creators, they show strong emotions, but they are not just cogs in a clock. And i can assure you, even if AI replaces us, the world, humanity, will be shifted into a different age. The age of philosophy, creativity and freedom. Our lives would change so much and we would finally be able to start thinking about our actual reason of being alive.

    Don't be scared of these things. Try to see how they can complement your work and how they might actually enhance and speed up your work. I mean, imagine all the disney movies back in the days that needed hundreds of people drawing for months and years to have a somewhat nice looking animation that was wonky. Nowadays you can use so many technical tools to make disney-esque animations as a solo-artist. These Art-AI's can help you to find interesting compositions, color setups and what not within seconds for which you would need days, weeks or even months. But they will always need the intention of a human. You have to tell the tool to "create a beautiful landscape with an abandoned city and a postapocalyptic feeling to it" or whatever. Boom, a few seconds/minutes after you have 10, 20 or even 100 different variations from which you can choose from and then put your own emotions, and feelings to it by drawing over it or whatever you can do.

    This is what AI will do. It will be a companion. Yes, it could theoretically also be replacing us as humans, but trust me on this, we humans will always find ways to cope with our surroundings. And honestly, the insight i have on technology really tells me that we are ultra far from having humanistic robots that are like us, but better. In the end they will remain machines that are really good at doing repetitive, mathematical stuff. Unless we finally understand what consciousness or the soul is. And i believe that this is a secret that remains to the universe forever.

    It is the creative mind, the inspiration and the emotion, that seperates us from machines, and these traits are actually what make us so valuable and so special.
    So, use this gift. Use your gift of being a creator, and trust in the future.

    It doesn't matter what happens, it only matters how you go along with it!

  26. Im so glad this video was made.
    Ever since i started doing art, my cousin has always discouraged me lol. then when AI art came, he was like yo now you SERIOUSLY dont need to be doing this shit

  27. If we're talking about human connection, ai isnt creating images by itself. there is someone behind it that writes the prompts and tells it what to do. so there is human connection and therefore it is art but they dont have to spend years to learn the craft like we did. all the time i spent learning these skills were in vain and this is what depresses me.

  28. If this is meant to be a serious video, there is a huge number of falacies which relly on dangerous optimism, complacency and comparitivity. Aaaaand it ended with an ad for a drawing course.

  29. As a young artist, not yet out of university, I fear I'll never get to follow my passion because some tech guy decided that I and my childhood dreams are both worthless. Especially so as someone interested in digital art.

    I hope it's just going to be another tool. I hope it won't kill countless art jobs and the online art community. And really I hope the technology won't get any better than this, even if I know it probably will.
    But at the same time I'm finding it pretty hard to be positive about this.

  30. the one thing people need to consider (don't want to scare artists): – the AI learn extremely fast – just past half year most models went from "hands are monstrosities " – to "realistic hands". In next few months up to three years the AI models will be capable to do anything. – there are methids to teach the AI to learn about a topic or character and recreate it. In my opinion AI will be a tool of an artists and implemented into workflow. People scared of AI and not using it will stay behind the ones using it

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